I thought one was supposed to be at least 10 feet away from the chronograph when measuring velocity. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Probably saved me some money. I ended up finding data for it on the instructions for the powder measure. Brian spent three years in Spokane as a Zag until his baseball career was cut short by a tragic plane accident that took the lives of his parents and younger sister. Working and enjoying the outdoors were just a normal part of day to day life. JavaScript is disabled. No issues there. I am gonna give it a try. As a rule though, i try to keep it at the distance specified by the chrono brands i`m using. I have spent a lot of time perusing through the 9mm Reloading section and it seems that most folks who are using 124gr FMJ & JHP bullets with Titegroup are loading their cases with 4.0gr to 4.2gr of powder. Can't keep enough at the house. Does anyone have a link to somewhere with this info? I really enjoy the community as well as the sport. An avid shooter and outdoorsman, George takes pride in the quality custom rifles that G.A. I am using 115 gr jacketed bullets with Titegroup powder. I use 115 gr xtreme bullets mainly with titegroup but made up some loads recently with hp38/231. 1.100 in. Obligatory start low and work your way upSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk, Went out and tested 4 more loads today (2 of the same load) and got extremely similar results. Boris_La . He volunteers as an alter sever at Mass on Sunday at church and is a member in the Civilian Airpatrol Program. After this I would consider most all of the load data above close enough to start load development with. Residing in Cheney Washington, Jake Vibbert owns JC Steel targets Inc. and is a strong competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and the National Rifle League. Dianna Muller earned a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice/Psychology from University of Central Missouri and retired from the Tulsa Police Department after 22 years of service. May 7, 2012 9mm 124 gr FMJ 1.15" COL 4.3 gr Titegroup (a little hot) Precision is making and looks forward to the future of creating the best professional custom rifles on the market. When I used titegroup my load with 147s was 3.0gr and with 124s it was 3.8gr, power factor was always around 130. If you can't find a properly developed published load for that combination, do yourself a favor: Call Hodgdon, and ask them for the specific load data. All loads used Winchester Small Pistol primers. I have been using 3.3gr Titegroup under 147fmj at 1.15 coal. By For 231 I used 4.3 gr @ 1.130" OAL. Upgrade efforts paused for now. I dont think i would worry about it. She has since entered the Open division and has competed all over the country at numerous national level events, including the PRS Finale in 2018. A couple months later, Zach shot USAYESS competition in Grand Island. Next, plated bullets have tradionally been loaded using cast lead data. MM thanks for that comment on the adjustable charge bar. Jan 30, 2011 (Edited) I can't seem to find the load data for 115gr FMJ w/Titegroup powder online or in the Lyman 49th manual. This is a good consistent and uniform powder, reloads easy and accurate. With velocities at 1046 to 1119. I haven't shot any yet but it would be disappointing if I had to pull 150 bullets. Test gun is a HK P30L, which has about a 4.75" barrel. Some flake powders have a wider range and they need it because they meter poorly. Thanks all. Titegroup is what people generally buy when they are trying to make budget loads, and the general best Titegroup loads are between 3-4 grains of powder only, so you can load a lot of rounds with just 1 pound. She has competed on the TV series, 3 Gun Nation as well as an upcoming show called The Big Gun on Sportsman Channel, airing in Q1 2016. Titegroups unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. Be sure to enter theNES/MFS March Giveaway ***Taurus G3c***. Snake River PRS club has become his pride and joy with a dedication to growing the sport by recruiting and supporting new and youth shooters. I like using this gun because I've heard HK tests it at 2x max pressure specs for the 9mm. Berry's RN plated, 4.0gr Titegroup 1.143" OAL No issues running in STI Spartan, Glock 26,19,17 & 34 or my 9mm AR I put together with a NES YHM lower. This is a new powder to me and I understand that it is a fast burn powder. C.O.A.L. Titegroup's unique design provides flawless ignition with all types of primers, including lead-free versions. He is a four-time World Champion, 13-time National Champion, the only Triple Crown winner in Action Shooting Sports and has 600+ (and counting) local and regional shooting competitions. You are using an out of date browser which is likely incompatible with our website. A precision rifle enthusiast and owner of GA Precision, George likely needs little introduction. The larger permanent cavity may lead to faster blood loss. All bullets were taper crimped as a separate step in the handloading . PF is between 130-135 depending on gun. In 2016, Phillip was nominated for Scout Sniper Instructor of the Year for his meticulous instruction that resulted in institutional changes in the training of Marine Scout Snipers in both formal schools and unit level training. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. I remember seeing something similar here long time back. and 8 lb. I use tight group for 9mm. Cowboy Action, Bullseye and Combat Shooters should love this one! The largest difference was just over 1fps over a 10 shot average. An avid outdoorsman, he enjoys hunting and fishing with his family and mentoring youth through his ministry service. This is a capture from the Sierra load data with Titegroup starting at 1000fps. I looked at 9mm load data for 115, 124, 147gr and the range for Titegroup is, well, tight. Brian now competes in both the PRS and NRL Pro series. Buy Sport Pistol or N320 instead. TiteGroup is too fast burning to be a good universal powder. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Dianna currently competes in the role of Captain for Team Benelli. The .357 Sig handloads could have been loaded even hotter. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. I was intrigued with 3-Gun since, as a police officer, I relied on all three platforms at work. I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. And how are you metering 3.3gr? You don't want to just use data from a similar bullet. Titegroup 3.4grs 968 FPS G34 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 668 Scottsdale, AZ Posted January 28, 2018 Notes 2: 3.5grs Tite Group Distance to Chrono (FT): 5.00 Ballistic Coefficient: 0.212 Bullet Weight (gr): 147.00 Temp: N/A F BP: N/A inHg Altitude: 0.00 # FPS FT-LBS PF 10 957 298.99 140.68 9 947 292.77 139.21 8 959 300.24 140.97 I just loaded 1000 124 grain plated bullets with 4.2 grains of Titegroup. I dont remember my powder charger right off the top of my head. Hell they even have chrono`s that mount right on the barrels of rifles these days. Doubling that will come close to including practice rounds spent at his one-of-a-kind shooting range he built on the edge of the Snake River Canyon. The game hooked me, but I fell in love with the people! Since returning to competition on 2009, Dianna has earned a plethora of High Lady wins, including the 2013 and 2016 USPSA Ladies Open National Championship. I don`t recall my OAL for either without looking in my load notebook. They are snappy, but fun to shoot. I am doing 3.7gr of Titegroup 124gr bullet. The bullets I have available are 124gr/125gr plated and jacketed and 147gr plated. 2.8 gr. Better like this than some of the disasters I've seen where someone basically takes a wild guess at something. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Do not load above recommended manufacturer book maximums. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old . Her assignments included Patrol, Street Crimes, Narcotics, and Gangs. I wonder why the difference. It's great for light target loads in revolvers but generates way too much pressure for mid-range loads or pistol loads Some powders that work much better are Power Pistol, BE86, or even the old standby . Second Media Inc., 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. This works well for me, although the TG seems to meter a bit inconsistant, so I bought some WSF to try out. A licensed Montana Professional Outfitter and Guide freelance writer, his articles and photographs have been featured in magazines including Outdoor Life, American Hunter, American Rifleman, Field and Stream. If I don't like it, I will give it to my buddy After working up a lighter load for my daughter I ended up with 124 grain plated bullet and 4.4 grains of Titegroup. As it says on bottle, a little goes a long way.. Not cast, but I have 4k 124gr Barry's plated over 4.0gr. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. I consider the type of bullet. Ryan has volunteered for HAVA and Freedom Hunters events getting wounded vets into competition and/or hunting. What we load doesn't mean it will be safe for you. The more inexpensive "competition" powder. Great powder, would recommend it to anyone shooting & reloading. I have been putting together some load data for some of the loads I use commonly. The Lee second edition manual shows 115gr jacketed has 4.8gr max at 1.125 oal for 1158fps. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. A lot of this powder fits in a case, over 10 grains, easily. I've had no issues in sever thousand loads, other than having to adjust COAL a few thousandths one way or the other. I got the adjustable charge bar for rifle loads and tried it out with titegroup and it did not work. Zach started attending national shoots in 2018, including Junior Worlds, Junior Olympics Nationals, and USAYESS Nationals. Posted by David Blankenship on Aug 12th 2022. I use 4.5 gns with Federal primers loaded to an OAL of 1.130. Believe me, I'm not TRYING to stretch or bend any rules. I didn't use TG; it was Longshot (or WW452AA?) I dont plan on stopping anytime soon and this year is scheduled to be as busy as any while shooting 4 different series. So filling up half way looks normal. Wish i could find it again. Its easy to double charge your rounds, as you will barely notice. The gun to be used is a Sig M11-A1 9mm, 4" barrel, standard recoil spring. Makes a difference the JHP will be a little hot for FMJ - assuming you are not making SD rounds. http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=9%20mm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/dm&Weight=115&type=Handgun&Order=Powder&Source, http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=566352. He retired from the North Kansas City Police Department after tours through Patrol Division and the K-9 Narcotics Unit, with additional duties as the Department Armorer, SRT Unit Sniper, and Range Officer/Instructor. Phillip is also well known as a nationally ranked precision rifle competitor in the Precision Rifle Series and National Rifle League circuits. All of them are asking their parents for shotshell presses now. Through shooting, Zach has met many people in the shooting community. He is also a noted TV personality, regularly appearing on TV programs Shooting USA. I have the Hornady manual, but nothing about Titegroup in the manual for 9mm. 4 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: 6 hours ago, looking4reloadingdeals said: I use the Caldwell chrono and it statesthat the unit must be 10-15 ft from the muzzle for the reading. For instance I use Montana Gold hollow points and consider them to be pretty much the same as Speer/Hornady. Is this not a safe load? Works good in everything from my 1911 to Glock YMMV. From their home in Montana, Shoot Straight with Chad & Marsha follows Chad, Marsha and their two boys-Walker and Wyatt-across the world in hunting adventures. Sponsored by many of the hunting industries leading manufacturers, he has conducted over a thousand hunting and fishing seminars across the United States and has hunted and fished extensively around the world. Growing up, Brian spent very little time indoors, with his passions being split between baseball and spending time in either the river, the desert, or the mountains. First for 9mm and now for 45ACP. This is safe, yes? This is a flattened spherical powder. It's for practice, not for competition. Feb 27, 2020. Although The High Road has attempted to provide accurate information on the forum, The High Road assumes no responsibility for the accuracy of the information. To help get you started with load data we have collected information from what we consider to be a reliable source for easy reference. Titegroup has it all - low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. They are calibrated at/for specified distances. Im liking the W231 better as of late in the 9mm tho. When you load this stuff, you better be focused on what you are doing, its not recommended for anyone that loads with many powders around, constantlys swapping powders. RN for about 10 years with excellent results in my Glocks and STI pistols. Phillip is a 10-year Marine Corps veteran having served his whole career in the Scout Sniper community. Used for my 9mm loads mostly. Same load just use the coal from another powders load. Titegroup has it all low charge weight, burns clean, mild muzzle report and superb, uniform ballistics. 1 - 4 of 4 Posts. I saw that there, Rusty, but I need data for FMJ, not HP. I use Titegroup in my sig p320. After looking at my previous set ups, the chrono was likely at about 7 feet, not 5. Need to be careful with plated bullets because not all are created equal. Shooting steel plates or need to shoot fast? I didn't think 4.5 grains was a max load either, because on the Titegroup container it says that for 115gr Speer GDHP max load is 4.8 gr. Your link has been automatically embedded. Starting load is 4.5gr for 1135fps. Used Titegroup and a variety of different weight and mfg bullets. I know a lot of USPSA shooters who use it for their 9mm minor loads. Ryan and Dianna continue to not only compete, but train and film all over the country. Sorry for posting so many times in a row but I just got some new information. Still using 4.0 Grains of Titegroup with 124 Gr Jacketed and 3.6 Gr. In cases like this 9mm I would use the start data for the next heavier slug if that was there. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. Loading is always at your own risk. In 1999, George opened GA Precision after apprenticing with three gunsmiths. This link will be updated as I continue to develop more loads and test them. There have been some top 10 ELR finishes as well but I dont remember the specifics. Brian Neace grew up in Southern Idaho in the Snake River Plain, surrounded by miles and miles of high desert to the north and bordered on the south by public wilderness. Thanks for your patience. After starting a life and career in Tulsa, she pursued barrel racing until she found 3-Gun in 2009. ABOUT CHAD: Chad is a world champion elk caller and two-time Eastern US Elk Calling Champion. Lee made a micro charge disc that may help with small loads. As the name implies, this spherical propellant was designed for accuracy. and 8 lb. My question is how much would you load into a 158gr bullet. They are impressed by the light recoil and how cheap it is compared to buying new AA shells for practice or matches. It will damage a blood vessel the smaller projectile barely misses. Those who would emasculate Americans by denying them the right to bear arms are guilty of aiding and abetting evil when it strikes. Retired LEO/Rangemaster, Glock armorer, pistol instructor, Endowment NRA member. This section shows you A LOT of information about 9 MM powders and how they compete against each other using the same brass, same bullet, same OAL, same primer, same gun, same day, same conditions..the only thing that is different is the powder. Load at your own risk. I am now loading 4.1 grains TG with OAL of 1.135 to 1.140 inches. I have shot benchrest, F-Class, PRS, ELR, NRL hunter, and field matches. Titegroup This is a flattened spherical powder. We recommend upgrading your current browser or. Reloading is a personal responsibility and you must start low and work up and NEVER ASSUME. I got the Titegroup on a recommendation. They're mostly for use in an M11/9 submachinegun but they work fine in a S&W Shield also. Special Order 9MM (.356) 38/.357 (.358) 125 Gr Round Nose; 147 Gr Round Nose; 158 Gr Semi Wad Cutter; . Clear editor. Every match Ive been to that chronoshas the chrono set up at least 10 ft away. Phillip Velayo currently serves as Gunwerks Long Range University Lead Instructor. Starting at mid range up to max. Max charge was 4.8 grains, so these should be fine. As with any load data posted on the internet, please start testing low and work your way up. I have found it to be very accurate, and prefer it over my power pistol loads. He is also the past Editor of Blackpowder Guns and Hunting Magazine. My name is Robert Brantley and I have been obsessed with precision rifle since 2007. Soon, Zach was shooting skeet and fell in love with the sport. Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. As an fyi, stay away from the 147gr berrys with titegroup. I was happy at 4.0 gr in M&P 9 and Sig p938. Still using same load years later and it's a good round.
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