Look at the no-name guy who got a million hits for his new Python failing video. Garand Thumb posted a review showing 8 inch groups at 17 yards, while also shooting inch groups with other PCC's at the same distance. If you want something expensive that works get a B&T or H&K something instead. Anyone have any further updates on the smg 45? I asked, but the armorer is not saying anything. If money wasn't an issue, I'd get this gun in a heartbeat just for how cool it looks with that magazine. LWRC International SMG 45 ACP 25 Round Capacity SMGPB45B8S - $2899 LWRC's ingenuity has produced yet another awesome platform in a caliber that you have to love. Active rebates (10) Winchester Target Rifle Ammo Rebate 2023. It's a great gun but we prefer the B&T APC45 to the LWRC SMG. He said it could be the best pcc out there if it wasnt for the accuracy issues . Edited by BenelliHunter (01/11/23 08:27 PM) Login for Special Pricing. If you don't have an optic yet, then no worries it ships with robust Magpul MBUS PRO backup iron sights that won't fail you when it counts. To be fair to the Vector, its a very good brand of new hotness. Only drawback to the B&T is the magazines are expensive. RF knew all about this line of getting people into guns which is why he originally wanted game reviews for TTAG, along with some other techno based stuff to get people, especially younger people into the 2A community. By popular demand, LWRC confirmed that they are working on a 9x19mm version of the SMG-45, but did not confirm a release date. The SMG 45 is exhibiting a problem the LWRC knows about, and now the market does too. Select Options. What am I doing wrong? Now they pass on the cost to the citizen. I like the ump mags instead of Glock mags for this. Optic is a Vortex UH1 Holographic sight love it. Typical LWRC quality. NEW in box Never Fired LWRC SMG-45. JavaScript is disabled. Naturally, the muzzle is threaded. Trick #1: Remove the thread cap Add To Cart. His reviews on BEnos are what steered me away from buying one. The issues poping up are a bit worrisome but I'm sure LWRC will get it straightened out. Got the zero pretty much on but it was still scattered all over the target. Garand Thumb is pretty neutral and at least he is transparent with any relationship he may have with whoever's product he is testing. The right side of the LWRC SMG-45 features a bolt release and bolt catch that mirrors the AR-style one on the left side. Jeremy strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience. Description. I bought one when they first came out (before doing my research). For moral support, I took a good high school friend of mine (we are in our 50s) that is a teacher and has no experience firing these type of weapons. As I stated above, accuracy was garbage. The B&T APC45 is less expensive and we feel better made. . LWRCI makes terrific firearms. Now I have to fight her for it during couple shoots. Quick View. I keep coming back to look at that picture. Fantastic trigger. Gamers turn into airsofters who turn into practical rifle / 3 gun guys. Pasted as rich text. It was happening when shooting normally, as well as suppressed. Thread starter Dschapp44; Start date Oct 24, 2019; Forums. By Yea gets worse if you add a can. B&T GHM45 and APC45 are excellent options. Realistically, its no different from all the tools who grew up reading too much Soldier of Fortune in the 70s and 80s. Most notably, whatever you keep on your nightstand or on your hip. I really want one or these just a little nervous from issues people had with the gen 1s. .45ACP in nearly all but the very lightest bullet weights is subsonic, relatively low pressure, and has that cavernous barrel inside diameter to further dissipate gas volume. Retail is $2995. LWRC surprised everyone at NRAAM this year by releasing a completely new platform, the SMG-45. I read his review. All Rights Reserved. Quick View. Come join the discussion about other firearms, gun ownership, gun care, tactical firearms, small arms, optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! The highly anticipated SMG model is built on an AR platform with innovations and high performance features you expect from an LWRCI. So the disconnect releases the hammer too soon and the trigger can't catch it when resetting 2 CryptoStunnah 3 mo. What if they just used a set pin instead of a grub screw (or whatever type screw theyre using). https://youtu.be/BIPCn-aYMoM, I have been waiting four years for this gun, honestly I was afraid it was vaporware. SMG Fixed Stock Adaptor . He lives outside of Austin, TX. It is multicaliber and I'm told there will be a 9mm conversion in the future. The mags are the issue to me. In the firearms industry often times you get what you pay for, and although the delayed blowback system is more expensive to produce, it keeps you on target and lengthens the firearms life due to lighter parts wear. Mine has ran flawlessly for approximately 1500rds now, No accuracy issue for me, but the bolt shattered around 1,000 rounds. FS/FT NEW - RADICAL FIREARMS RF-15 RIFLES AVAILABLE IN 5.56, 300 BLACKOUT, AND 7.62X39 FS Tag Heuer Formula 1 Chronograph (New Updates! A tubular folding stock graces the rear of the SBR version. I was really looking forward to buying one soon but now I'm going to have to hold off. This has never been shot. A lot do, and as you probably know 45 ACP is well suited for suppression. SMG-45LWRCISIX8ICAR-15AR-15 UMP SMG-45 2016LWRCIUMPSMG-45 SMG-458.51:16.57828.40/45SMG-45LWRCI In my occupation with my team we needed something to fill the role between pistol and long gun so I have experience with a wide range of sub guns, but being left handed I always had to compromise with certain features and most platforms I used and trained with tended to have ambi controls that just seemed to be added as an afterthought. What does this offer over that? You can post now and register later. I've only taken it out once. Secondly, it does NOT stop the rounds rattling in the magazine though its not quite as bad as before. Designed on our proprietary Short Recoil/Delayed Blowback operating system the new SMG is lightweight - 5.9 lbs and compact folding to a mere 15.3". Until .45 PCCs are more reasonable in price ill pass. Played with it a bit and realized the follower was "catching" and "chattering" instead of moving up smoothly. Looking through the Manuel it does seem you can reassemble the gun incorrectly that could cause accuracy issues . The result is a. Not going to happen. LWRC SMG-45 Pistol. Sure. Got a HK German spring for it. (Especially if you SBR them.). Grouped like shit, mine is damn consistent in its groupings. I feel for the guys that are struggling with accuracy issues, but I'm not one of them. I shoot with a SilencerCo Omega 45K (with Neilsen/Booster) and sight is a Vortex AMG UH1 and it's totally solid at 10 yards, 25 yards, 50 yards, and I've even had some fun hitting 24"x24" steel plates at 200 yards (about a 50% hit rate). For $3k I can pick up a Vector in both .45 ACP AND 10mm. The PCC in 45 is an awesome option for any kind of endeavour you choose. Thats exactly why I posted this. LWRCICR5TG16SPRBT. Switched the brace to a tailhook and swapped in a Geissele GRF single stage and it has been incredibly accurate with Winchester White box so far. Takes range time from my 1911's and other handguns with similar portability and much better accuracy at distance. Groups in close are tight (2-inches at 25 yards on a bench rest) good, at least for me and my crappy eyesight. Nice looking pcc/subgun! LWRC SMG 45 Problems Prudii Jul 28, 2020 5 3,392 Prudii PMMEYOURCZPICS Supporting Member Multi-Factor Enabled Joined Jun 11, 2017 Messages 1,442 Location Triad Rating - 100% 35 0 0 Jul 28, 2020 #1 TL;DW Significant accuracy issues across multiple guns with random flyers 10+ MOA away from point of aim. Evidently MY SMG doesn't like the extra weight of the suppressor on the front end. Well, probably not near you, but it is just a click away here at GUNPRIME. In stock. As far as what this articled gun offers to me? These are pretty sweet. Meet the first model in the SMG Family - the new LWRCI SMG .45 Pistol + SB Tactical Brace. Mags are $60 from LWRC but UMP mags appear to be available elsewhere for around $45. I have an interesting range report for you. LWRC SMG45 apparently has major accuracy issues tacarl2808 Jul 28, 2020 1 2 3 Next tacarl2808 Frontiersman 80 0 Jul 28, 2020 #1 Garand Thumb posted a review showing 8 inch groups at 17 yards, while also shooting inch groups with other PCC's at the same distance. After reading the responses here, its going to be a no for me. A non-reciprocating forward charging handle can be swapped from the left to the right side depending on the users preference. LWRCI SMG 45 Specifications Make: LWRC International Model: SMG 45 Action Type: short-recoil-delayed, blowback-operated, semi-automatic, center-fire pistol Chambering: .45 ACP . LWRC made a natural choice in chambering their first submachine gun/pistol in the classic .45 ACP cartridge. Speaking of backpack guns and PDWs, the collapsible length of a mere 15.3 inches with its SB tactical folding brace provides the handler high concealability. No, its not a popular handgun cartridge, because when you have to hold a double stack 45 handgun it always feels like a behemoth. That dude just needs more traffic and web hits to drive revenue. Discover Is the First Gun Store Transaction Tracking Credit Card. Theyll sell a lot more of these things if they cut the price to a grand or so. You are using an out of date browser. Without a doubt the LWRC SMG 45 is the perfect weapon of choice for military, police and all shooters alike. pscipio03 Fun O' Meter on FULL Joined Mar 11, 2013 It is longer than the existing spring but not quite as long as the V1 magazine spring and it's obviously not the same type of spring as the V1, its outward finish is the same as the Non-V1 Mag spring, NOT BLACK like the V1 Spring. As for as how manageable and smooth it shoots I will admit I was a little head shy of the floating barrel and short recoil/delayed blowback design. LWRC SMG 45 for sale. Does anyone have one yet that could shed any light on what its like in person? *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. Rapid Fire. So, got a surprise shipping email from LWRC this past wednesday. Click or two UP and Left and I removed all the paint from the 2" painted square and center punched the 1" square. GunZoneDeals. The SMG-45 uses an inertia-driven, delayed blow-back design. Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. AR15.COM is the world's largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. For that price you're retarded to buy that. Well there for sale at Omaha fire arms right now and Im not buying it ( right now ) . $2350 shipped. Ive made that argument before but Id rather not follow that groove on certain popular game guns I guess and the Vector is one of them. Ships with 2 25 round US- manufactured UMP magazines with Paddle Style mag release for easy load and mag changes. Please enter your username or email address. It is an investment but great engineered product I expect to enjoy. The CMMG Guard and Banshee also use a true delayed blowback. Same thing with the Scorpion EVO pistols. Trick #4: To fully insert bolt assembly, push the little round spring-loaded thingie at the back of the bolt (this little gem caused me about an hour of extra work to figure out how to get the bolt assembly fully inserted into the upper.) I am hoping they have some updates at Shot show. The gun will not group better than 6 to 8 inch groups at 25yrds. Manufacturer: LWRC International Model: SMG Caliber: 45 Auto / ACP SKU: 850006403509 MPN: SMGPB45B8S UPC: 850006403509 Vendor: Gunprime (3) Sale! Took the mags apart and put a light CLP coat on the inside to make the follower slide smoothly. Within the next few weeks, more will show up at local dealers. inclined who could definitely screw this process up I'm hoping something as simple as this Is part of the problem . Its an outstanding round to suppress, and efficient to run in 6-12 barrels. The whole recoil system on the Vector is an interesting design and the one I shot was pretty nice, though it was a 9mm. It arrived back in my grubby hands today. I really wish it wasnt 3k . Is it classified as a pistol? Id pick this over my UMP45, just because of the trigger. Same suppressor works flawlessly on my Sig P220. Over to the pistol and we see an SB Tactical pistol stabilizing brace. I was told by the folks there at LWRC that it is a magazine problem for sure .they now ship all the guns with upgraded magazines. Most people are cheap and stupidthats why that sell the sh/t out of Budweiser, Bud Light, and Michelob Ultra. Report a problem. Any updates yet? The result is an extremely high damage per shot for an engineer weapon, as well as increased damage multipliers to the limbs and a slightly increased damage multiplier to the head. For more information, please see our Most of my AR-9 builds use Colt-style mags because I love how that looks over the slanted Glock mags or the banana clips seen on the MP5 or the Ruger 10/22. No reliability or accuracy issues with factory or my reloads. Designed on our proprietary Short Recoil/Delayed Blowback operating system the new SMG is lightweight - 5.9 lbs and . The main reason, I gather, APC45 is still a blowback. And since it looks heavily AR in its design, I wonder if its going to break trigger pins every 800 rounds like many other 9MM AR platform guns do. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. LWRL04-0056C01. You will receive a link to create a new password via email. The new LWRCI SMG-45 is an extremely nice looking and feeling, high quality firearm. TRRK TRADING has had a few of these in inventory and sold them all. The barrel and bolt travel rearwards together for a short distance before unlocking This is called a recoil operation, Jeremy. After tuning the mags haven't had a jam or failure to feed in months. A total of two 25-round UMP magazines arrive with the LWRC SMG 45. When you pick it up you can instantly recognize that it just feels ready for work, and that was exactly what I was wanting. The Hide Armory. They can be had for less than a kit built Romanian AK-47, whi. They developed the gun for the government. Having fired the Vector (in .45) and the MP5K both with the giggle switch installed, Im partial to the Vector. We both shot 1 inch groups from the standing position. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Add to cart Add to wishlist. The first one, was one of the first produced and it had some issues with magazine pressure and failures to feed. Benefits: Lightweight AR-15 style ergonomic design. If you see one in a gun store all the people my age and below want to marvel at it, play with it and a bunch of them end up muzzling people with it. LWRCI SMG .45- PISTOL CALIBER PERFECTION. Dumped the LWRCi. (The two round burst function is a technological marvel.) 6D428B07-C5A9-4F72-8400-C80E897CA2E0.jpeg, EA75F858-1B3D-40E4-B48F-1FBBF020BA8F.jpeg. Awesome! Oh well to each their own. Ambi Selector Switch. Weight: 10.7 oz. Article code SMGPB45B8S. ..Realistically, its no different from all the tools who grew up reading too much Soldier of Fortune in the 70s and 80s., strych9 says: Aug . December 9, 2021 in Pistol Caliber Carbine. It's a great gun but we prefer the B&T APC45 to the LWRC SMG. I spoke with a rep from LWRC probably around June or July and he said the initial feeding problems was a magazine issue and that they have fixed the accuracy/flyer issue. Mostly the lower grip . I hope it will decrease the shot groups from spreading so bad. It was very accurate with RD site out to almost 75yds until I saw big drop. LWRL04-0038C01. Ive read all the reviews and videos. Barrel Price $2693.00 In Stock ICA5R5B16 LWRC International LWRC IC-SPR 5.56mm 16 Spiral Fluted Barrel Price $2434.00 In Stock 1 Review I'm extremely excited to hopefully put some rounds through one eventually. 600$ or less and lose the AR buffer tube mess and trigger pin snaps. A delayed blowback is a different system. Is it possible you have the barrel screw too loose, or too tight? subscribers . Better Security for the Home. Um nope. I had been trying to get one for several months and finally just called LWRCI best idea I ever had because they were so great. Its the reason why HK early on, only developed 45 ACP suppressed with the Mark 23 SOCOM for Navy Seals and later USP for civilians. Just about the coolest looking piece of shit ever made. Generally speaking I fail to see the point in a semi-auto subgun. You running it with a can? Maybe true on the out side, but NOT on the inside. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Quick View. Im sure there are a lots of people who arent very mechanically inclined who could definitely screw this process up Im hoping something as simple as this Is part of the problem . So basically its no better than UMP. MAGPUL LWRC 6.8mm 30rd PMAG - Black. That indicates LWRC modified the magazine to work with the SMG-45. The barrel and bolt travel rearwards together for a short distance before unlocking, which delays the opening of the action and allows the pressure to drop and more of the gas and pressure to exit the muzzle rather than the ejection port. LWRC SMG UMP 45 Auto Magazine 25 Round. and our Question any one have one of the new smg with the 4 in the serial number? Paste as plain text instead, After repair, the accuracy is still good. Add To Cart. This is the one that had serious accuracy issues, right? This is the 2nd one of these that I've owned. Garand Thumb did a review and he hated it. If you want to spend less than half for a legit 45 ACP AR upper, get a Macon Armory DI45. He regrets the purchase. LWRC IC-SPR (CA Compliant) Rifle | ICR5B16SPRCAC 5.56 NATO (223 Rem), Semi-Automatic, 16.1" Spiral Fluted, Adjustable Stock, Black Anodized Finish, 12" Rail, Flip-Up Sights, 10+1 Rds Hinterland #: 66655 MFG #: ICR5B16SPRCAC In stock MAP: $2,334.70 Request a price Add to Wish List Add to Compare 74677 MFG #: Add to Wish List Add to Compare Low Stock I could get 10+ M3 SMGs for the cost of one of these. Developed for the needs of a government contract back in 2015, this submachine gun (SMG) as LWRC calls it only recently came available in a pistol version available for the general public.
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