I have suggested the donate-money-to-the-shelter thing for about four years now; it gets a blank stare, followed by a startled, oh! could have had us all come to earth as adults, but instead we came as infants needing 24 hour care to survive; there must be something we need to learn from being dependent on parents, and 4) share some motherhood quotes. Steve P, Be patient with her imperfections, for she has them. Think about your message and how it will sound to the entire spectrum of your sisters in the ward. Uchtdorf. when she becomes a God like I know she will she will be an inspriation to all ladys, It can be any of those. And chocolate. But arent mothers also sweet, like cookies? Nice meeting. I asked a mother and daughter to sing the main lines, and then I had the . Sometimes its good, sometimes its bad. With that in mind, there are great ideas in this discussion thread of ways to do exactly that. What a nice gift for a Mom..hey, you guys have a great time!! Our current Bishop decided not to do anything for mothers day. My mother was an ideal, and she is schizophrenic, couldnt cook water without burning the pan, never cleaned a thing in the house while we were children, had rebellious to some degree or another, etc. Since I believe he (the Father) and my Heavenly Mother are probably equals, Id say we know a lot about her as well! Too often folks with food allergies, diabetes, and similar challenges are left feeling like second class saints in our food-laden church culture. Maybe, eventually, I will heal and that will change. Needless to say he was not asked to speak in sacrament meeting for a long, long time. Families are good about this but public acknowledgement is hard to come by. Ive lived in numerous family wards, and Ive never gotten as much as a crumb for Fathers Day, at least not from church. to hear my little kids sing and for my older kids to pass out a flower. Why? Well give you an honest deal! At the end of the survey there was a comments box where individuals could leave specific feedback to bishoprics that organize Mothers Day. But I still think the Dove bars our bishop chooses rock the holiday. No fuss, no muss. Most of us brought up to beleive that the man of the home was were it was at. We once had a bishop hand out frozen TV dinners! So I would personally prefer if they didnt do those honor-mothers meetings. and read for the dayLOL, isnt that a nice dream?? I choose to stay away for most MDs and all FD. She was not a perfect mother, but I loved her. And, as your mother, I will miss the delicious pie during a relaxing third hour of church. Thanks, kc! Then she spoke with conviction about the grace of Godthe grace that helped her forgive herself for the serious problems she caused her children that could have been prevented if shed prepared herself, and the grace that helped her achieve later in life the spiritual depth she had lacked when her children were young. Rockpond, is this separate from a Primary Program? The US holiday was only adopted in 1870 and was also used to protest the sacrifices mothers had made when their sons were killed at war or killed the sons of other mothers during the Civil War. My son Dan was married June 13 about a week ago. Scriptural women are perhaps safer :-) And in our ward, the men get cans of Dads Root Beer or Sugar Daddy candies. Put me in the column of those who think Sacrament Meeting should be about Christ. Mtg. 41 Fear not, little children, for you are mine, and I have overcome the world, and you are of them that my Father hath given me; 42 And none of them that my Father hath given me shall be lost.. Regular G.A.S. At least half the ward was so embarrassed for her at this point that they looked as if they wanted to crawl under the benches. I also really like Kristenes suggestion and everything like unto it as EOR suggested. Even though Mothers Day is now a reasonably happy day for me personally, I still find that my mind is focused on how other women in my ward might be experiencing it. Nuts. #37 Now that you mention it, Uchtdorf is pretty Hallmarky. Ere the sun goes down. However, like you, I thought Fathers Day was a done and done. You dont come, you dont get one. As the son of a mother who was destroyed every Mothers Day, and seeing many similar experiences here, I plan to stick to the Christ-centric meeting next year. While it addresses questions about how to raise a girl, the talk also discusses the nobility of fatherhood, the influence fathers have on children, how to cherish your wife, and why virtue is so important. In my home ward, we once had a Mothers Day Sacrament Meeting the topic of which was the priesthood. That was the job of the family, and for single sisters, the home teacher. I have nine children, eight grown, am temple divorced and remarried to a nomo. Although, I hate how as a single man, some married women run from me cause they think Im going to try to seduce them or something. Only for the second time he also included a segment about how if his wife was a better homemaker maybe his kids wouldnt have such screwed up lives. (Although I love the song idea for the Primary #65) Marys life is always appropriate, Lucy Mack Smith, Hannah & Samuel, etc. Inevitably they would be instructed that the gifts were for all women, so theyd try hard to give me one. Doesn't it seem strange in a religion that supposedly is so family focused that we have people who ignore the cries of many of the women in church who want to be mothers and can't be or who sorrow over children who are not making good eternal choices? Yea like all of you My Mother sucked too. Could someone remind of what the day is for after all? Their talks often included poems about the immeasurable amount of crap mothers had to deal with. Id like to see the swords beaten into plow shares this mothers day And for once ( just once) the SAHM vs working mom verbal cat claws retracted. I just read that talk again; and I see nothing wrong with it. Most seemed to realize bishoprics are trying and they appreciate any effort. I may have to borrow that. My wife and I were not in his ward to hear the talk, but he told us about it later. On the night before His Crucifixion, Jesus Christ met with His Apostles and instituted the sacrament (see Luke 22:1920). I wont be attending this Sunday either, but as always will honor my own mother by being the best mother I can be to my hurting children. She cares about your eternal safety and happiness. That we be a great subject for Mother's Day. Theyre all very good, and not being critical, but Hallmark w/ scripture would seem to be one way to describe the style of Pres. They seemed to love the tradition and I never received negative feedback. Or better yet, teach their classes and let them attend RS for a day? More often than not, his assumption is correct. Aleah Ingram As far as Jesus is concerned, he was sinless so is able to stand as an ideal. Give the gift of time. Not an official website of the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. The rest of us mortals should stick with real.. It is not a bad thing and it might be the one day that young mothers will remember and enjoy the most. The Primary president asked him, as Chorister, to write a new song for the kids to sing in sacrament meeting on Mother's Day. Make it different, and they will see you are trying. I have some ideas of speaker topics but I thought I would start a thread for suggestions of topics, scriptures, conference talks, etc that would help make a great Sacrament Meeting that honors Motherhood while also keeping a focus on Christ. It is not that women want to be from Venus, but they want to be from Venus five universes beyond our own. Why are women so disenchanted with motherhood when we value it so highly? How could I forget? LDS Mom Launches Exciting New Party Game. If you want to deal in rose-colored platitudes, you are probably gunning for the high council, so save it until then. Maybe we should do it eucharistic-like so I dont have to feel guilty? Ive never objected to any Mothers Day program, and in my ward, all women get a gift, married, single, divorced, widowed, with or without children. The water is a reminder that the Savior shed His blood in intense spiritual suffering and anguish, beginning in the Garden of Gethsemane and concluding on the cross. I was supposed to talk two weeks ago on the purpose of the Sacrament but ended up in surgery instead, and upon returning to church last Sunday was asked to reschedule. The primaries (100 of them? They want to give a message of comfort and support to other parents who are navigating the difficult conflicts that can arise in families around this issue. On the road this week I attend Mother's day services with the fourth ward in St George Utah. (Sorry to barge in madhousewife). President Hinckley directly addresses mothers in this talk, commending them for the wonderful thing they have done by becoming mothers, but offering insights on their greatest challenge: to be able to answer the question How well have my children done? with happiness. Somehow those who are not mothers are incapable of celebrating motherhood and thus it is painful for them and thus no one should celebrate motherhood as a church. The only Mothers Day event for another church Im aware of is when a friend told me that in her church the main talk is always about Christ no matter what holiday it is, but when its just the women the speaker will focus on motherhood and Christs teaching about mothers. Wow! This reflects a very different image than the one we portray to the world about our values and what we say means the most to us. . I actually think its good to celebrate both Mothers and Fathers Days with the caveat to be sensitive to the feelings of those who have difficulty with that celebration. It is the essence of who we are as women. Honoring Fallen Parents: The Fifth Commandment and Romans 3:23 The Fifth Commandment enjoins: "Honor thy father and thy mother." Something else for me to kill.. In the same way, when we make a dramatic production of Mothers Day, I fear that we are sometimestrying to compensate for the way we devalue the real and important work they do on the other 364 days of the year. I agree with #15youth speaker, song and chocolate and the rest of the meeting devoted to Christ. Is this our Sharon Haynie from DN branch? Diversity and Unity in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Environmental Stewardship and Conservation, Joseph Smiths Teachings about Priesthood, Temple, and Women, Peace and Violence among 19th-Century Latter-day Saints, The Manifesto and the End of Plural Marriage, Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham. On Sunday Morning my sister and I drove almost 2 hours each way to go visit my maternal grandmothers grave. Many times, it seems bishoprics want to put women on a pedestal for a day, while trying not to offend anyone. I plan to skip church on Mothers Day morning to visit my mother in the home and I will receive my Masters Degree that afternoon! Keep in mind, this is from a male perspective, andmy opinions might be worth exactly what you paid for them. For sacrament meeting, we can give the men a sternly worded warning about the danger of tehpernogriffiez. by Leading Saints | Apr 27, 2016 | Articles, Bishops, Elders Quorum, Relief Society | 21 comments, In 2016 Leading Saints conducted a survey about ward mothers day gifts. To the light the lost ones leading, And home teachers were not comfortable giving flowers or candy to a single sister. Mother's Day Last year I used the last verse of "Teach Me to Walk in the Light" and the song "Teacher/Mother Do You Love Me" for the Mother's Day Primary songs in sacrament meeting. I have not attending other churches that have mothers day services aimed at mothers. She worked during the day and took classes at night, and created a home for her children where they knew love. This post should be required reading for all Mothers Day speakers. I have an aversion to bringing my family's celebration intochurch and causing other women pain. Primary kids singing, oh, 12 songs, and then someone real standing up and talking about the incredible power of hope, even when we feel that we dont measure up, and the wonder of the atonement and Gods love for us. Mothers day will likely be about Gods unconditional love for us and how it pains Him to see us struggle And how even mothers cannot quite reach that level of love, but we understand the concept because most of us love our children in much the same way (but n, Focus your talk on how much we ALL need Jesus (even mothers) because we are all sinners (read the Bible It tells us so). Father's Day Talk in Sacrament Meeting June 21, 2009. Its a complete set-up for failure. This is something better done away with. This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you (Luke 22:1920). Watching the Primary children singing to their mothers in Sacrament meeting was the hardest. Gods commands I must obey, This past Mother's Day we arrived late to sacrament meeting due to a cobbling mishap in the morning. I would say that since Christ is supposed to be the express image of his Father that we do know quite a bit about the Father. If you take one thing away from this not-so-scientific survey, it is, when in doubt, go with chocolate. When chocolate is handed out, our children end up begging for it but its the one day I wont share. But Ive also read this: 40 Behold, ye are little children and ye cannot bear all things now; ye must grow in grace and in the knowledge of the truth. It was an emotional rollercoaster of raised hopes and disappointments. I went to Sac. please please please please dont pull us teachers from Primary for pie or talking. I meant to type rebellious children in #90. Trust her. However, Uchtdorf also gets women and articulates that better than most. Maybe Ill get a pizza and tell the kids to cook it for breakfast when Sunday morning comes. Sacrament meeting is the term for a regular Latter-day Saint worship service, usually held each week on Sunday, where the sacrament (similar to communion) is offered to the members of the Church. I think it turned out great. I dont see why having a Tiger Mom would be necessarily any more or less traumatizing than having a Don Draper Mom. Make it a FUN day!!! We were utterly gobsmacked. I did this for five years and the sisters seemed to enjoy sitting, chatting, and not having a child demanding a bit of their pie. Latter-day Saint pianist Monica Scott has arranged a touching Mother's Day medley in honor of Stephanie Pope, a mother of five who recently passed away . Questions & Answers: What am I supposed to think about during the sacrament? Then I served in a Branch with 90% women who had absent husbands and who also grew up with absent fathers. I love her and think she did a great job with the limited resources she had. Ugh ugh ugh. Didn't Sheri Dew give a talk titled, "Are We Not All Mothers?" You can guess how well that went over. For those in Europe, is Mothers Day celebrated to the same awful-gut-wrenching extent? There are wrongs that need redressing I would love tohear from you. He also shares ways a mother can become the first line of defense against the wiles of the world., RELATED: 30 Inspiring LDS Quotes About Mothers & Motherhood. My own father would probably appreciate a plant, but fortunately he enjoys cookies too. Perhaps it shouldnt be mothers day, but be Womans day and celebrate the contributions of women of faith in their families and communities. Daughters of God Mrs. Gui, All the little Guis and their little Guis, the violin, photography, Prokofiev, Mahler, Terry Pratchett, Patrick OBrian, Umberto Eco, sci-fi and fantasy, Brigham Young, playing Bluegrass with real Kentuckians. They cannot eat it, and in fact just having the stuff around is a serious temptation to do so. April 24, 2015 in General Discussions. Sacrament meetings include music, talks, testimonies and prayers. Where everyone else is happy and interested in celebrating motherhood - those terrible males and those rancorous children in particular - they need to be denied for "me" and "what I want". The first consideration is that you, the speaker, need to begin with your audience in mind. One of her favorites: Im so bad when daddy comes home, You can still give the women the day off. Well, count me among the lucky ones who are speaking this coming Sunday. Which also makes me wonder about why we Americans dont recognize International Womens Day. The worst talk I ever heard came from a woman who described how her mother used to sit by her during piano lessons. How can a father raise a happy, well-adjusted daughter in todays increasingly toxic world? Food is the communication tool of choice for Latter Day Saints. There are diabetic men, arent there? I love this. lesson about prayer. I've done this in past years but always enjoy the new ideas from the participants here As I plan our Mother's Day Sacrament Meeting, what have been your favorite talk topics for Mother's Day? Usually chocolate, a plant or flower. Well done! Mothers Day gifts at church should be like free t-shirt day at the baseball game. I dont think it would occur to anyone to give a man a plant for Fathers Day *, but its very common to give women plants for Mothers Day. Yeah, it would be pretty late to be thinking about music now. THE major Mothers Day talk in Sacrament Meeting in our ward this week, I have forwarded all of this discussion on to him! Women have mothers too! Alma 56:47-48. Beautiful. What does it mean when we want to remove motherhood from Mother's Day? But one thing is for sure, Ill be drawing on much of this. The first one we did was a modified version of "Teacher Do You Love Me". . I would also love all quotes, conf talks, songs be from women to reinforce the value/insight/talent women have. I thought my husband (Sonny) had already posted this, but maybe not, or Im just blinder than usual. Although Mothers Day is not fraught for me the way it is for so many, I will be watching with interest next Sunday to see which way our meeitng falls. He offers advice on how young women can look to faithful mother figures as a pattern to follow. Seriously, no one is going to be pleased. It has been another hellish week, reminding me of all my faults and short-comings as a mother, all that went wrong for me as a daughter, and it has all brought me a liitle closer to God, who is repeatedly teaching me that one-size-does-not-fit-all, or most or even many. Have You Discovered the Love of The Everyday Christ? All women were given a 'present' which looked like a flower or something, I didn't inspect it; many men and women took extra ones to give to any mother or lady in the neighborhood, single, mother, any sister or non member. The bad ones tend to deal withthe big generalities, praisingmotherhood without even pausing to define whether we are speaking of women who have given birth, or womanhood in general. Loverboy was gone, she was outside of the church, and she had no means of support. That being said, my ward will be nice and quiet next Sunday, one of the joys of the YSA wards. I have been called by God to be there and that is where I should be. I think its terribly sad that growing up Mormon, I never heard anyone make any serious attempt to talk about Heavenly Mother on Mothers Day. She told us that as a girl, she would sit in her room crying, with big welts on the back of her hands, but now that she was grown up, she understood why her mother did it, and she was grateful, by golly. Ive decided to speak on how motherhood allows me to develop Christlike attributes (knowledge, patience, temperance, etcref 1 Peter 1:4-8) through daily struggles and reliance on the atonement and then finish with how wonderful it is that mother is only one of the facets of who we are as we strive to become strong women of God. https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2014/04/wanted-hands-and-hearts-to-hasten-the-work?lang=eng. Sacrament meeting is a time for us to renew our covenants, it is a sacred ordinance. Your arrangement sounds really cool. I dont go to be honored or get a gift. Geesh! (If you want to see an example, search mormon tax exemption on Twitter.) Forgive me for not understanding the blessing part of it. at all.. I like the idea of a simple gift for those in attendance. Ere the sun goes down. And dont even get me started on the Are We Not All Mothers tripe. The first speaker was my favorite. But shes never experienced the horrors I have where the local ward nut case talks about how his wife isnt putting out thanks to menopause. I think Emma and Naomi are very neglected women in our teachings (understatement considering the general neglect). Please add to the possibility of what LDS women are dealing with: they didnt have the best mothers themselves, they are the adoptive parents of mothers who, for whatever reason couldnt be a mothers, (adoptees and foster children or adults that have been in foster care could be particularly vulnerable as well); they work outside the home and love it, they work outside the home and hate it, they cant stand being mothers, the list could go on and on. Preparation Print the song pages. Bear in mind thatmost of women in the congregation havelives that havent turned out the way they expected. We were each handed full size chocolate bars that had been wrapped at the end of Sac Mtng. But I realize others prefer plants. I haven't a clue about how to interact at times. Through this ordinance, Church members renew the covenants they made with God when they were baptized. If So, Should We Pray Out Loud? But as for now no praise deserved but the praze to the heavenly Father. My bishop knows where its at, and we always get Dove bars, Milk for those of unrefined taste and Dark for the rest of us. I have heard good talks and bad talks, and really dislike the sacralizing of the universal and perfectly average activity of mothering. Ive decided to see if I can discern consistent reasons why the good ones are good and the bad ones are terrible. I exchanged the word "guidance " for the word " mothers " in this verse to help it go with the Mother's Day theme. I dont remember terribly well, but at the Episcopal church I attended for a while, I dont think Mothers Day was nearly as emphasized as it is in the LDS church, because its not part of the liturgical calendar. I'd suggest that women at various stages in their lives speaking about what the joy in womanhood, being a divine daughter of God means to them in different stages of life, would at least eliminate all that talk and honor of mothers who have lots of children and do everything right that cause so much pain to women everywhere. My wife spoke on Mothers Day (which I originally thought was a bad choice, because she herself appears to the outside world to be the perfect mother) about her own mother and some of the simple things her mother had done for her that made a big difference in her life and how grateful she was. Clap my hands and shout for joy! It was perhaps the best talk I gave as a bishop. don't get me wrong, I'm not bragging. Latter-day Saint Life. The primary children sing and we are making a mothers day gift in primary. This is Elder Hollands second appearance on this list of LDS talks on motherhood. Im also a High Councilor, who always tries very much not to speak in rose-colored platitudes that, sadly, you associate with High Council speakers. I just spent two hours reading all the comments, viewing the video mentioned in #90, and taking notes. Those who are solely focused on their own selfish desires? It hits pretty close because Im one of those lucky people who get to speak on Mothers Day this year. Maybe the Hallmark channel should use some of his conference clips as fillers when movies end early. So He can be ideal AND real. Let us also posit that, even if the average woman is more nurturing or righteous than the . Ere the sun goes down: I am not sure what other words I can use to convey my meaning when I rely so heavily on tone. No one tries to probe for subliminal meaning in the choice of Fat Boys. Modal title . I know they happened fairly regularly in my own adolesence and early adulthood, but I cant remember one Ive heard personally in quite a while. Feelings of guilt, shame, loneliness, anger, disappointment, abandonment, and not measuring up to impossible expectations are prevalent. #109 Rayloved the roller coaster quote on motherhood. It was designed with ward choirs and Sacrament Meeting musical numbers in mind. I think its good to have something to air at! Over 70 countries observe Mothers Day, but some of them still retain these spiritual roots whereas in the US its mostly a commercial holiday. LDS Hymn Arrangements. I was dreading it, but I was rescued by my sister coming to town for the next 3 days yayyyy. For example, look at how Mothers Day and Mothering Day each have a religious as well as a secular component to them, and have even merged: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mother's_Day, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothering_Sunday. Last year, I gave this talk. I have been avoiding the mother's day sacrament meeting for the last couple of years. After church we can give dear old dad a cookie in a baggie and a kick in the pants, call it good for another year, and send him home. A later version of the holiday occurred in Europe where they would celebrate the Mother Church (the church as the bride of Christ and as the mother of their spiritual rebirth through baptism) and they would decorate the church with flowers and jewels. This blog post is the result of my musing. Please Please Please! I dont mean to be rude, but I know I will have anxiety over killing it and then I *will* kill it and then I will have to look at its dead body. Why in the church is there such a strong, almost secular aversion to motherhood? Last year, I did an arrangement of "I Often Go Walking" for the Primary children and our ward choir to perform together. I would say that my grandmother was like a second mother to us, but really she was like a first mother. The woman described her family as she was growing up. Sisters would come up to me and express that MD was hard for them also for various reasonsone was abused by her mother while another friend had lost a mother she loved as a teenager so cried all day long. Mothers Day was open so I said ok, I will come up with something appropriate. As for me, I will be sitting this Mothers day out. I think Ill check myself in to a nice bed and breakfast. We changed the lines to "Mother Do You Love Me". Ohand did you say you had an extra ticket??? Diversity and Unity in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Environmental Stewardship and Conservation, Joseph Smiths Teachings about Priesthood, Temple, and Women, Peace and Violence among 19th-Century Latter-day Saints, The Manifesto and the End of Plural Marriage, Translation and Historicity of the Book of Abraham. We all do., The relationship between mothers and daughters is at the heart of this talk from Elder Ballard. Mother's Day Singing Time Idea. MD really is a no-win. Aleah Ingram May 3, 2021 Entertainment. Sorry for the sacrilege I think all women want massages but not sure the church is the right place for it. Support Epic Family Fun! kc I love me some Pres. Uchtdorf, but you have to admit he gets pretty Hallmark(y) sometimes. Ive been jinxed. Oh, and my husband is speaking in our ward this Mothers Day. Thanks for thinking of me, my youngest bishop son! Or any talk. Yesterday I enjoyed another Mother's Day sacrament meeting, typical with its children's songs, a talk from a young man about how wonderful mothers are, a talk from a sister about how wonderful women are, and a tearful talk from a brother about all the incredible mothers in his life.
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